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#41 marccc

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 11:00 PM

wow only 20 hours of exposure

thank coincidence that it's on my hard drive now, it's a little piece of gold

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 03:25 PM

so there's still one song they do in pre-pro that we haven't heard yet............i want it lol

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 03:55 PM

View Postsurgerene, on Feb 11 2011, 03:19 PM, said:

so there's still one song they do in pre-pro that we haven't heard yet............i want it lol
i'm with you. i'd like to hear the song/s that didn't make the cut from preproduction.

actually, many think that there are two seperate songs, but we can't be 100% on it without confirmation.
somewhere, i read that they brought in 18 songs during prepro and cut two before beginning to track.

i refer to them as 17 & 18 in the 2nd post of this thread.

10 - Untitled (17) [via Seq 11v3]
11 - Untitled (18) [via Seq 11v3]

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:10 PM

wtf? did this get posted before? i remember this song from the vids.

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:29 PM

View Postthe glorious nose bleed, on Feb 12 2011, 10:04 PM, said:

wtf? did this get posted before? i remember this song from the vids.
this song has been around for a few years in many forms.


debuted @ 04.18.2009 - Irvine, CA @ UC Irvine (Aldrich Park) Wayzgoose '09:

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the offically released rooftop version in a higher key from during the tracking of blue sky noise in toronto in fall 2009:

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the circa survive full band home recorded demo released in jan. 2011 w/ the creature club tour pack 2:

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 10:35 PM

That's awesome, i had no idea. I was hoping it got made into an actual song heh.

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Posted 13 February 2011 - 02:30 PM

View PostSeptember, on Feb 12 2011, 08:23 PM, said:


this song has been around for a few years in many forms.
debuted @ 04.18.2009 - Irvine, CA @ UC Irvine (Aldrich Park) Wayzgoose '09:

c2eklCVarYE
the offically released rooftop version in a higher key from during the tracking of blue sky noise in toronto in fall 2009:

pgAkjCfCX8w
the circa survive full band home recorded demo released in jan. 2011 w/ the creature club tour pack 2:

2bJczIUPLj4


WTF at the demo. Mind = Shattered.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 07:36 PM

Suspending disbelief live () = suspending disbelief demo

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 07:32 PM

So... I'm a little confused about Handshakes at Sunrise, hopefully someone (probably September) could clear it up for me. Exactly how many versions of this song are there? Is the "second demo" the one on Inuit Sessions? Also, I can hear the obvious changes from the first demo, but is there a difference between the Inuit Sessions one and the EVR Summer Sampler one?

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 07:45 PM

don't quote me, but im pretty sure the 3rd demo is on Inuit sessions, and it is the same as the EVR sampler


i think the 1st demo is the only one musically different, the 2nd demo is just a lesser quality of the 3rd one?

and then there is the acoustic version of it

i think those are all the versions? might wanna wait till someone else says something before believing me though, im half pulling this out of my ass

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 08:33 PM

And the acoustic version is just Colin playing it live, right?

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 12:21 AM

View PostMaxwe11, on Feb 27 2011, 07:26 PM, said:

So... I'm a little confused about Handshakes at Sunrise, hopefully someone (probably September) could clear it up for me. Exactly how many versions of this song are there? Is the "second demo" the one on Inuit Sessions? Also, I can hear the obvious changes from the first demo, but is there a difference between the Inuit Sessions one and the EVR Summer Sampler one?
this song was recorded twice. the first being a home demo and the second recorded at skylight studio.

'handshakes at sunrise (first demo/early demo)' is the first recording of the song. it has colin playing drums on it.
it was leaked in may 2004 to the saoboard and has never appeared on any officially sanctioned comp or album.
as far as i know, only colin, anthony and brendan play on this recording.
im guessing that colin and anthony recorded it during late feb or march 2004, sent it to brendan for him to listen to
and he ended up recording guitar over it and sent it back to colin and ant. this is the only version or mix of this recording.

the second recording; this is where the confusion is. one recording. four releases. two mixes.

the other recording of this song was recorded at skylight studio sometime between april and early june 2004.
this recording has jon gartland on bass and t.j du blois on drums as well as colin, brendan and anthony.

'handshakes at sunrise (second demo)' leaked in mid june 2004 on the saoboard.  

'handshakes at sunrise' was released on the evr summer sampler released in july 2004.
this version and the one leaked a month earlier (handshakes at sunrise (second demo)) seem to be identical
other than the differences in overall level and fidelity.
same recording, same mix.

handshakes at sunrise (alt version) was released on the evr winter sampler released in nov or dec 2004.
same recording, new mix.
the new mix seemed to have more clarity in the low end of the spectrum and the backup vocals seemed slightly more prominant.
this version is also known as 'winter mix' or '2nd mix'. the differences are slight to my ears.
i remember someone in the band chimed in about it on the first csboard in 2004, telling where the major differences were,
but i dont remember exactly and unfortunately, neither i nor the internet archived that information.

'handshakes at sunrise (demo)' was released on the inuit sessions ep during circa's first tour in feb 2005.
it seems that this version is the same as the alt version/winter mix released on the evr winter sampler a few months earlier.
if there are differences they aren't apparent to me.

View PostMaxwe11, on Feb 27 2011, 08:27 PM, said:

And the acoustic version is just Colin playing it live, right?
yes, colin playing it solo at that bookstore in nyc in 2008 is the only acoustic version of handshakes i know of.


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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:26 AM

thanks for clearing that up! i was just sick of having three identical sounding songs haha.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 11:53 PM

fyi. I just added streaming links into the first post.

denoted as: [>]

I figure it'll help people hear the demos/versions quicker.
instant gratification.


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Posted 07 April 2011 - 03:35 AM

You're a beast Sep.

Forgot how good that early version of TDBMAPITD was...

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 02:54 PM

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:01 PM

Wow I didn't remember that at all!
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 03:44 PM

YES! My favorite update video of theirs
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Posted 20 April 2011 - 05:08 PM

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hey september, I remember asking you about this video awhile ago. I guess we finally have the demo now, thanks to the latest creature clubs release.

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Posted 20 April 2011 - 06:29 PM

View Postalexthegreat, on Apr 20 2011, 06:02 PM, said:

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hey september, I remember asking you about this video awhile ago. I guess we finally have the demo now, thanks to the latest creature clubs release.
im pretty convinced that at least two demos of this song were made:

At A Loss (2008 Demo)
At A Loss (2009 Demo)

ssolata and disambiguation vids both showed the writing/recording of the 2008 demo. those vids were released in nov and dec 2008.
the bass and delay is more pominant. I really hope that we get to hear this version as well.

the 2009 demo that we just heard, has alot of differences in sounds, even beside the organ part. i feel like i don't even hear nick at all.
im liking the song, im just not feeling the mix as much as the clips from 2008.





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