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Circa Survive: Released Demos

 

Circa Survive - Early Leaked Demos [2004]

01 - Handshakes At Sunrise (Early Demo) .

02 - Handshakes At Sunrise (2nd Demo) (1st Mix)

03 - Juturna (Demo) [The Great Golden Baby] . [>]

 

Circa Survive - The Inuit Sessions EP [2004/2005] (2005)

04 - Handshakes At Sunrise (Demo) . [>]

 

Circa Survive - Equal Vision Records: Summer Sampler (Compilation) [2007]

01 - Miracle Sun (Studio Demo) .

 

Circa Survive - Internet Release (via MySpace) [2008/2009] (2009)

01 - The Dentist Tune [Live/Improv] (04.01.2009) .

 

Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise (Deluxe/Exclusive) Demos [2007-2009] (2010)

01 - 100 Steps (Demo) (04.20.10) .

02 - Airplane Dance (Demo) (04.20.10) .

 

Circa Survive - Safe Camp Sessions [Acoustic Home Recordings] (BSN Bonus Tracks) [2010] (04.13.2010)

13 - Get Out [Acoustic Version] .

14 - I Felt Free [Acoustic Version] .

15 - Dyed In The Wool [Acoustic Version] .

16 - Every Way [Acoustic Version] .

 

Circa Survive - Creature Club (Audio Content) (2010-2011)

01 - New Sun (2009 Demo) [Creature Club USB] (10.12.2010) .

02 - Suspending Disbelief (2004 Basement Demo) [Creature Club (Tour Pack 1) (10.15.2010) . [>]

03 - Resentment (2009 Demo) [Creature Club (Tour Pack 2)] (01.14.2011) .

04 - At A Loss (2008-2009 Demo) [Creature Club (BSN 1 Year Anniversary)] (04.20.2011) . [>]

05 - Get Out (Early Demo) [Creature Club (CC Page/Streaming)] (2011)

06 - Blank Slate (2009 Demo) [Creature Club (Tour Pack 3)] (09.22.2011) . [>]

07 - Lazarus [Alternate Version] (2009 Demo) [Creature Club (Tour Pack 3)] (09.22.2011)

 

Circa Survive - Appendage EP (Creek House Session) [Winter/Spring 2010] (11.30.2010)

01 - Sleep Underground (Demo) .

 

 

Circa Survive: Live & Unrecorded

 

Circa Survive (AG & BE) - EVR Video Sampler (Live Acoustic Demo) [2005]

01 - Julian (Live/Acoustic) .

 

Circa Survive (AG) - Live & Unrecorded (Fall 2007)

01 - Stolen (Live) .

 

Circa Survive - Live & Unrecorded (Spring 2008)

01 - Cowboy Jam (Live) .

 

Circa Survive (AG, CF, BE & CF) - Live & Unrecorded (Tour Sequence 4) [10-11.2010] (11.2010)

01 - Untitled (I Know Where You Are) (Live) . [>]

 

Circa Survive (AG) - Live Acoustic Demo (YouTube Vid) [07.08.2011] (07.08.2011)

01 - Violent Waves (Live Acoustic Demo) .

 

Circa Survive (AG) - Live Acoustic Demo (Facebook Vid) [09.08.2011] (09.08.2011)

01 - Curtis, Thank You For Playing Our Songs For Your Mom (Live Acoustic Demo). [>]

 

 

Circa Survive: Alternate Versions Live

 

Circa Survive - Live & Unrecorded (Summer 2006)

01 - The Difference Between Medicine And Poision Is The Dose [Early Version] (Live) .

02 - Meet Me In Montauk [Full Band] (Live) . [>]

 

Anthony Green (w/ BE, NB & GOW) - Live & Unrecorded (August 2008)

01 - Semi Constructive Criticism [Avalon Tour Version] (Live) .

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Circa Survive: Unreleased / Unverified Demos/Live Jams

 

Circa Survive - Inuit/Juturna (Demos) [2004]

05 - Juturna aka The Great Golden Baby (Early Demo) [unreleased]

06+

 

Circa Survive - Juturna Sessions (Z-Side) [2004/2005] (Unfinished)

01 - Handshakes At Sunrise (Abandoned)

 

Circa Survive - On Letting Go (Demos) [2005-2007] (Unreleased)

01 - Devil's Song (2006 Demo) [Full Band?]

02 - New Sun (Original Demo) [2006 Demo] (Unreleased)

03 - New Sun (2nd Version) (Demo?) [?] [unverified]

04+

 

Circa Survive - On Letting Go Sessions (C-Side) [2007] (Unreleased)

01 - 100 Steps (Acoustic)

 

Circa Survive - On Letting Go Sessions (Z-Side) [2007] (Unfinished)

01 - Devil's Song (Drums Only) (Abandoned)

 

Circa Survive - LP3 Demos/Live Jams (via YouTube [Writing Vids]) [2008-2009] (Unreleased)

01 - (the good morning jam) (LP3 Writing Vid) [unverified]

02 - Spirit Of The Stairwell (Demo) (Unnamed-child) [unverified]

03 - (folk fusion) [unverified]

04 - (like twin peaks kinda) [unverified]

05 - (mnngflmstk) [unverified]

06 - At A Loss (2008 Live Jam [Full Band]) (ssolata)/(disambiguation)

07 - (is0lated_snow) [unreleased]

08 - Through The Desert Alone (tneccanrehtuosekaf) [unverified]

09 - (otisanonbelllya) (Demo) [unreleased]

10 - At A Loss (2008-2009 Demo) (disambiguation) [unreleased]

11 - (newvideo) (Demo) [unreleased]

12 - (spring comes to the creek house) [unverified]

13 - (porr tie) (Demo) [unreleased]

 

Circa Survive - LP3 Demos/Live Jams (via Creature Club Pack #2 [Vids]) [2008] (Unreleased)

01 - Spinning (11.04.08) [unverified]

02 - Telepanini (11.11.08) [unverified]

 

Circa Survive - LP3 Demos (via Twitter [Mentioned]) [2007-2009] (Unreleased)

01 - Remote (Fall 2008 Demo) [unreleased]

02 - Salvaged (Late May 2009 Demo) [unreleased]

 

Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise (Preproduction Jams/Recordings) [Mid-July-Aug. 14, 2009] (Unreleased)

01 - Untitled (17) [via Seq 11v3]

02 - Follow Your Bliss .aka. Untitled (18) [via Seq 11v3]

 

Circa Survive - LP4 (Demos) [2011] (Unreleased)

01 - Computer Crasher 3 [via AG Playlist Pic]

02 - Rockin (Circa Ideas '11) [via AG Playlist Pic]

03 - God, Money and Women (Circa Ideas '11) (AG) [via AG FormSpring Interview]

04 - Violent Waves (Live Acoustic Demo) (AG)

05 - At The Bloom (AG)[via CS Facebook]

06 - The Sad Quiver Of The Lower Lip [via AG Facebook]

07 - Curtis, Thank You For Playing Our Songs For Your Mom (Live Acoustic Demo) (AG)

08 - Can't Have It All At Once .aka. It Takes Time (AG) [via AG FormSpring Interview]

09 - Blood From A Stone (CF) [08.2011-2012] [Electronic Feel] [via Rocksound.tv Track-By-Track]

 

Circa Survive - LP5 (Demos) [2012-2013] (Unreleased)

01 - Feel Better Soon [AG-LP3? Writing] [via AG Tumblr] (12.26.2012)

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Unreleased Circa Survive Demo Recordings: [Time Span]

 

Unnamed/Vitalis/Cicada Lyre/Circa Survival/Circa Survive - 3 Song Demo [Feb - April 2004]

. (Handshakes At Sunrise [1st/Early Demo] is 1 of 3)

 

Circa Survive - Inuit Sessions Demo (Final) [April - June 2004]

. (Alt. Mix/2nd Demo of Handshakes At Sunrise w/ Jon Gartland & T.J. de Blois)

 

Circa Survive - Juturna Demos (Rough) [May - Sept 2004]

. (around 20 rough demos (mostly instrumental) were stolen from Steve's car in fall 2004)

 

Circa Survive - Juturna Demos (Final) [May - Nov 2004]

. (The Great Golden Baby/Juturna (Demo) & Suspending Disbelief (Basement Demo))

 

Circa Survive - On Letting Go Demos (Rough) [2005 - Late 2006]

. (9 Minute Space Jams/Up to 90 demos recorded (AG exaggeration))

 

Circa Survive - On Letting Go Demos (Final) [Late 2006 - Jan 2007]

. (steve said they went into the studio with 20+ songs, some had to be in demo form)

 

Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise Demos (Rough) [March 2007 - Early October 2008]

. (steve said that the amount of mp3's in his idea folder went from 36 to 48 on 10.05.08)

 

Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise Demos (2nd/Final) [Mid October 2008 - Mid July 2009]

. (Airplane Dance, 100 Steps, New Sun, Resentment, At A Loss, etc.)

 

Circa Survive - LP4 Demos (Rough/2nd/Final) [2009 - 2012]

. (AG C-Side Live Demos: Violent Waves, Curtis, Thank You For Playing Our Songs For Your Mom & Can't Have It All At Once)

 

Circa Survive - LP5 Demos (Rough/2nd/Final) [2012 - 2013+]

. (the writing/recording sessions are ongoing...)

 

 

[according to circa's twitter page on 04/27/09, "Colin just informed me that he made a playlist of every single idea we have. There are 450"]

[This could include rough, final and studio demos as well as jam/improv sessions from Circa Survive's entire span as a band (2004-2009)]

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I put a few mysteries that I was curious about after I put the newly confirmed info (props to steve btw). There have been may threads associated with these questions that have come and gone on 3 different message boards but I thought I'd copy and paste the info I have one more time.

 

There you have it:

 

"On Letting Go" Sessions

 

01 - Living Together

02 - In The Morning And Amazing...

03 - The Greatest Lie

04 - The Difference Between Medicine And Poison Is In The Dose

05 - Mandala

06 - Travel Hymn

07 - Semi Constructive Criticism

08 - Kicking Your Crosses Down

09 - On Letting Go

10 - Carry Us Away

11 - Close Your Eyes To See

12 - Your Friends Are Gone

13 - 1,000 Witnesses (Compilation-Bound Heavier Song) [4.22.08]

14 - The Most Dangerous Commercials (Especially Heavier Song) [6.30.08]

15 - The Devil Song (Drums only)

16 - There's Always 100 Steps Ahead (Acoustic/No Drums)

 

We also now know that the "Miracle Sun" recording was not made during these sessions. Since it is a (Studio Demo), I feel like it was not recorded at their home studio (which Colin refered to once as "The Hatch") in Doylestown but much more likely at the Skylight with Vince and Rach or Cannon Road in Freehold, NJ.

 

"The Devil Song" has been recorded as a rough demo.

 

Steve mentioned it once on 10-27-2006, 11:44 PM:

"yeah its a new song. we never played it live. its one of my favorite new songs. i wish i could post the demo of it but nope sorry. :P"

I think this demo has the entire band playing on it and was probably recorded after one of their tour breaks in May-June 2006 or Sept-Oct 2006. The first performance of this song that I know of is when Ant played it on Aug. 26, 2006 opening for TSOAF.

 

Not too much is known about these tour break demo sessions other than:

 

Post by Colin on December 13th, 2006:

"Its actually not that cold tonite. (my sister got her permit! how rad is that?)

I'm sitting inside the walls of our house built of warm winter love. Watching the science channel. (it's so awesome) Anthony is out in the hatch laying down new ideas…. He went back to the first demo that was made of this batch, which was written way back in april after the saves the day tour. The demo already had vocals but he is kind of approaching the song from a new perspective. We all tend to do this with our parts as we go along. It's a refinement stage of sorts now. I find that a lot of great ideas come out when you distance yourself from the song for a while and then come back to it at a point in the future yet to be determined. Haha, pretty much when you can't even remember what it sounds like.

Nick and Steve made an awesome stop animation last night. Hopefully they put it up here for you to see. Its sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Making stuff is fun. Goodnite yall. -c"

I'm very interested in the initial demos that were made prior to "Juturna" being recorded. Spring through Late-Fall 2004.

 

Brendan wrote in 2005:

"wow. i havent been on this thing in forever.you are right on!!!! the GGB demo was recorded at skylight studios by vince and rachel.(zolof) it was done at the same time as handshakes at sunrise. we all loved the version too. we actually tracked handshakes with Mcternan for juturna and didnt even finish tracking it because we liked the original so much. we recorded a ton of our own demos for juturna at our house. and we all got demoitis. ha. cool topic. peace yall."

Colin wrote on 12-21-2004, 03:08 AM:

"we all lived in a house in trevose pa for a couple monthes while writing....it was wonderful. we dont live anywhere anymore but thats quite ok. word."

The other mention of the "Juturna" demos is of the rough/jam/instrumental demos. (which I would love to hear how these riffs/parts began)

 

Chiaro wrote on 09-21-2005:

"There are none out. Steve had like 20 very very rough demos on cds in his car. Im guessing a bunch had to be instrumentals but he said somebody stole them. That loser probably listened and said what the hell is this shit cause they were really really rough versions."

There were rumors that recordings were made during an early incarnation of the band when Camille Driscoll (keyboards), Colin Mahony (bass?) & Tom Cullen (drums?) were involved and that Ant was unhappy with the songs or the recordings or simply the direction the band was moving in. Not much is known of early Circa Survive (Circa Survival, Cicada Lyre, etc.)

 

I also found it interesting that "Handshakes At Sunrise" was recorded at the same time as "Great Golden Baby (Demo)" Does that mean that Jon Gartland, T.J. du Blois, Nick Beard and Steve Clifford were all at Skylight at the same time? A passing of the torch-type moment.

 

Who played piano on "Juturna (Demo)"? Someone (not in the band) once said it was Camille but I just don't know if that's true.

 

Also another mystery that has remained is about "Handshakes At Sunrise (1st Demo)". I know Ant sang, Colin played at least one of the guitar parts and the drum tracks. Did Brendan play guitar on this? Who played bass? Someone also said that this demo has organ/keys on it played by Camille but I don't know.

 

Guillame Lambert? He is credited on the Inuit Sessions EP as being involved/playing/jamming with an early version of the band. Did he really play with these guys or is it an inside joke akin to Wesley Snipes? I started thinking Tom Cullen wasn't real either (The Stand - M-O-O-N: That spells Tom Cullen) but I'm pretty sure he must've played drums before Steve and TJ but after Colin.

 

Sorry about all this. I have an inquiring mind and like to keep track of these obscure recordings mentioned once and never revisited.

If you look closely enough, you can see what's there. And what's there is often overlooked.

And now that the old Circa board has been deleted I guess it's good I archived this info.

Hoping that someday these obscure recordings will see the light of day.

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is that a piano i hear? who played it ?
Brendan wrote in 2005:

"wow. i havent been on this thing in forever.you are right on!!!! the GGB demo was recorded at skylight studios by vince and rachel.(zolof) it was done at the same time as handshakes at sunrise. we all loved the version too. we actually tracked handshakes with Mcternan for juturna and didnt even finish tracking it because we liked the original so much. we recorded a ton of our own demos for juturna at our house. and we all got demoitis. ha. cool topic. peace yall."

 

Colin wrote on 12-21-2004, 03:08 AM:

"we all lived in a house in trevose pa for a couple monthes while writing....it was wonderful. we dont live anywhere anymore but thats quite ok. word."

 

The other mention of the "Juturna" demos is of the rough/jam/instrumental demos. (which I would love to hear how these riffs/parts began)

 

Chiaro wrote on 09-21-2005:

"There are none out. Steve had like 20 very very rough demos on cds in his car. Im guessing a bunch had to be instrumentals but he said somebody stole them. That loser probably listened and said what the hell is this shit cause they were really really rough versions."

 

There were rumors that recordings were made during an early incarnation of the band when Camille Driscoll (keyboards), Colin Mahony (bass?) & Tom Cullen (drums?) were involved and that Ant was unhappy with the songs or the recordings or simply the direction the band was moving in. Not much is known of early Circa Survive (Circa Survival, Cicada Lyre, etc.)

 

I also found it interesting that "Handshakes At Sunrise" was recorded at the same time as "Great Golden Baby (Demo)" Does that mean that Jon Gartland, T.J. du Blois, Nick Beard and Steve Clifford were all at Skylight at the same time? A passing of the torch-type moment.

 

Who played piano on "Great Golden Baby (Demo)"? Someone (not in the band) once said it was Camille but I just don't know if that's true.

 

Also another mystery that has remained is about "Handshakes At Sunrise (1st Demo)". I know Ant sang, Colin played at least one of the guitar parts and the drum tracks. Did Brendan play guitar on this? Who played bass? Someone also said that this demo has organ/keys on it played by Camille but I don't know.

 

Guillame Lambert? He is credited on the Inuit Sessions EP as being involved/playing/jamming with an early version of the band. Did he really play with these guys or is it an inside joke akin to Wesley Snipes? I started thinking Tom Cullen wasn't real either (The Stand - M-O-O-N: That spells Tom Cullen) but I'm pretty sure he must've played drums before Steve and TJ but after Colin.

 

Sorry about all this. I have an inquiring mind and like to keep track of these obscure recordings mentioned once and never revisited.

If you look closely enough, you can see what's there. And what's there is often overlooked.

And now that the old Circa board has been deleted I guess it's good I archived this info.

Hoping that someday these obscure recordings will see the light of day.

-J

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Yeah, I prefer the demo of TGGB to the studio version.

 

Either way, I love that song and it is one of my favorites.

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I wish one of the members would confirm if Cowboy Jam or Sleep On The Ground are going to be used on this record.

 

 

hi there. at this point itd be very hard to say. theyre on our board of "things to mess with" but we havent done so yet.

we do have 18 songs that are somewhere in the process of being demo'd right now. and a ton more ideas that have yet to be worked on. we ll just have to wait and see! lovvvve

c

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hi there. at this point itd be very hard to say.

theyre on our board of "things to mess with" but we havent done so yet.

we do have 18 songs that are somewhere in the process of being demo'd right now.

and a ton more ideas that have yet to be worked on.

we ll just have to wait and see! lovvvve - c

nice, sure up the numbers.

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T.J. de Blois formerly of Like Lions played drums on the Inuit Sessions version of Handshakes At Sunrise.

 

Get outta here, i had no idea Steve wasn't the original drummer, really?

Inuit Sessions is the only one i don't own because it's so rare.

The drumming is so similar i had no idea.

"You learn something new every day" LOL

 

BSN related news: Glass Arrows is still my fave song, when Ant belts out "Disappeared from public places never seen again" i get pumped, the delay on the guitar breakdowns is beautiful too.

 

lmao that's why i love you baggy. and september is an awesome mod honestly,i doubt anyone could do a better jarb. :(

 

JEEEEEEOOOOOOORRRRRRBBBB! -Coach Z

Sorry, couldn't help it.

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Get outta here, i had no idea Steve wasn't the original drummer, really?

Inuit Sessions is the only one i don't own because it's so rare.

The drumming is so similar i had no idea.

"You learn something new every day" LOL

 

On Handshakes At Sunrise (early demo), the drums were played by colin.

There was at least one other guy who jammed with anthony and colin on drums back in the inception days also.

 

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=...st&p=133087

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=...st&p=197100

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On Handshakes At Sunrise (early demo), the drums were played by colin.

There was at least one other guy who jammed with anthony and colin on drums back in the inception days also.

 

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=...st&p=133087

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=...st&p=197100

. .

 

Have you heard this version with Colin drumming? If so how different is the drum beat? Is there any way i can hear it? Sorry about all the questions but this is interesting news.

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Have you heard this version with Colin drumming? If so how different is the drum beat? Is there any way i can hear it? Sorry about all the questions but this is interesting news.

yeah. it leaked in may 2004.

 

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=...st&p=146375

 

i suggest you take a good look around. this board has been here since may 2007

and the old circa board was started in fall 2004.

before any boards there was the Circa Thread on the SaoBoard.

So were looking at 6 years of info about Circa Survive.

There is much to find if sought.

 

http://circaboard.com/index.php?showtopic=3034

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Dang, just found out about this EP today...haha. Not sure how it slipped by me. Sounds superb, though...really rounds out listening to BSN combined with this EP.

 

I'm still a little dissapointed, though...for a year now there has been one song I really wanted to hear. Sounds like it could be amazing. It's located at 1:10 and 2:34 in this video:

 

LAOEeSx7W0U

 

:)...maybe there will be more songs released?

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Dang, just found out about this EP today...haha. Not sure how it slipped by me. Sounds superb, though...really rounds out listening to BSN combined with this EP.

 

I'm still a little dissapointed, though...for a year now there has been one song I really wanted to hear. Sounds like it could be amazing. It's located at 1:10 and 2:34 in this video:

 

:(...maybe there will be more songs released?

good ear. idk.

 

i also noticed this song failing to show up on the lp or ep. nick said there were only 4 b-sides.

so i'm doubting that they're holding out.

 

this video is from the initial preproduction phase which precedes the actual tracking/recording.

so, i'm guessing this is a song that almost made the cut to be one of the 16 but didn't quite make it.

there's another one from the prepro vids that i guess also wasn't tracked.

it seems 'airplane dance' might have been another that was nixed from the list of 16.

 

its good to know that they seem to have no shortage of seemingly full fledged songs.

 

these two prepro c-sides, im going to refer to as 'untitled (17)' and 'untitled (18)'.

im guessing those two might be reserved for the next time around.

although i'd be open to the release of the preproduction vids in their entirety.

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Ahh yeah, you are probably right...that song was most likely never properly recorded and mixed and whatnot. Those alternatives sound good though haha. Either making it a song on the next album, or perhaps hearing them play the whole song on the full video. Either way, I just want to hear the dang thing :)

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How about the track they are playing at 0:52 and 2:51, sounds sooo good. Unless it already exists, sounds unreleased to me. Would love to hear the full song.

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these songs may have been rearranged to songs we already have... so who knows! but i know they have hella songs i'm sure in a vault somewhere. I remember nick i think saying how when they end as a band down the road, they would plan on releasing everything

this is very true. theres no telling how augmented the 'bsn lp' and 'a ep' songs are from their original versions.

it does seem that the writing methods of circa allows for the evolution of songs to get to the point

where they might be unrecognizable when compared to the original notion/seed/spark.

 

i just happy they are releasing demos at all. from 2004-2009 there weren't very many cs demos that were released officially by the band.

'handshakes at sunrise' in 2004 and 'miracle sun (studio demo)' in 2007.

 

'the great golden baby/juturna (demo)' was a 2004 leak, not sanctioned by the band.

 

in 2010, we've had the greatest outpouring of officially released demos from cs to date.

'100 steps', 'airplane dance', 'new sun', 'suspending disbelief' and 'sleep underground'.

 

and thats not even counting the 'safe camp sessions' which are basically after-the-fact acoustic demos or live home recordings.

also these high fidelty live recordings, notably the 'daytrotter session' and the 'myspace transmission session' are so nice to hear.

 

i really hope these trends continue.

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